Comments on: Music Created by Learning Computer Getting Better http://singularityhub.com/2009/10/09/music-created-by-learning-computer-getting-better/ The Future Is Here Today...Robotics, Genetics, AI, Longevity, The Brain... Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:22:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: Robonova Plays Twinkle Twinkle Little Star on the Piano (video) | Singularity Hub http://singularityhub.com/2009/10/09/music-created-by-learning-computer-getting-better/#comment-37927 Robonova Plays Twinkle Twinkle Little Star on the Piano (video) | Singularity Hub Sun, 21 Nov 2010 18:29:39 +0000 http://singularityhub.com/?p=7927#comment-37927 [...] playing the piano. After all, we’ve got plenty of automated keyboards. Heck, we even have artificial intelligences that will compose original music. We don’t need a humanoid that plays the harpsichord. What we do need is a robot that can [...] [...] playing the piano. After all, we’ve got plenty of automated keyboards. Heck, we even have artificial intelligences that will compose original music. We don’t need a humanoid that plays the harpsichord. What we do need is a robot that can [...]

]]> By: Jazz Legend Pat Metheny’s Robot Orchestra Project (video) | Singularity Hub http://singularityhub.com/2009/10/09/music-created-by-learning-computer-getting-better/#comment-20449 Jazz Legend Pat Metheny’s Robot Orchestra Project (video) | Singularity Hub Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:10:17 +0000 http://singularityhub.com/?p=7927#comment-20449 [...] of creative possibilities for everyone to explore. Humans may need that increased potential as AI musicians (those that actually compose their own work) are becoming ever more sophisticated. Looking at the [...] [...] of creative possibilities for everyone to explore. Humans may need that increased potential as AI musicians (those that actually compose their own work) are becoming ever more sophisticated. Looking at the [...]

]]> By: Cool Video of Aikon II Robot Drawing a Face With a Pen | Singularity Hub http://singularityhub.com/2009/10/09/music-created-by-learning-computer-getting-better/#comment-15357 Cool Video of Aikon II Robot Drawing a Face With a Pen | Singularity Hub Sun, 28 Mar 2010 23:01:08 +0000 http://singularityhub.com/?p=7927#comment-15357 [...] what they are programmed to draw. This project has much more in common with the attempts to get computer programs to create new pieces of classical music. Tesset and Leymarie have studied many historic sketches (and artist’s notes) to generate an [...] [...] what they are programmed to draw. This project has much more in common with the attempts to get computer programs to create new pieces of classical music. Tesset and Leymarie have studied many historic sketches (and artist’s notes) to generate an [...]

]]> By: Anonmicron http://singularityhub.com/2009/10/09/music-created-by-learning-computer-getting-better/#comment-13801 Anonmicron Thu, 25 Feb 2010 20:32:23 +0000 http://singularityhub.com/?p=7927#comment-13801 I wonder what would happen if you fed Emmy some Ozzy I wonder what would happen if you fed Emmy some Ozzy

]]> By: Composer Uses WiiMotes and AI To Form Robot Band | Singularity Hub http://singularityhub.com/2009/10/09/music-created-by-learning-computer-getting-better/#comment-13746 Composer Uses WiiMotes and AI To Form Robot Band | Singularity Hub Tue, 23 Feb 2010 03:27:00 +0000 http://singularityhub.com/?p=7927#comment-13746 [...] seen some really amazing AI programs that create computer generated music by analyzing the work of famous composers. Jazari is relatively similar. Flanagan created Factor Oracle back in 2008, a program that could [...] [...] seen some really amazing AI programs that create computer generated music by analyzing the work of famous composers. Jazari is relatively similar. Flanagan created Factor Oracle back in 2008, a program that could [...]

]]> By: ricemine http://singularityhub.com/2009/10/09/music-created-by-learning-computer-getting-better/#comment-9310 ricemine Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:11:12 +0000 http://singularityhub.com/?p=7927#comment-9310 i'm just a fan of the fact that it responds to criticism...isnt that what pop music is? not necessarily art though. i’m just a fan of the fact that it responds to criticism…isnt that what pop music is? not necessarily art though.

]]> By: ricemine http://singularityhub.com/2009/10/09/music-created-by-learning-computer-getting-better/#comment-32071 ricemine Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:11:00 +0000 http://singularityhub.com/?p=7927#comment-32071 i'm just a fan of the fact that it responds to criticism...isnt that what pop music is? not necessarily art though. i’m just a fan of the fact that it responds to criticism…isnt that what pop music is? not necessarily art though.

]]> By: Jax http://singularityhub.com/2009/10/09/music-created-by-learning-computer-getting-better/#comment-9002 Jax Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:36:44 +0000 http://singularityhub.com/?p=7927#comment-9002 People reject it because they are scared, we are not as special as we think. I find it pretty awesome that we can create a neural network to do this kind of thing. The only thing it can't do on its own is write a piece of music for a purpose (e.g. for a cause or such like). Certainly could go a long way in terms of replacing the mainstream though. :) People reject it because they are scared, we are not as special as we think. I find it pretty awesome that we can create a neural network to do this kind of thing. The only thing it can’t do on its own is write a piece of music for a purpose (e.g. for a cause or such like).
Certainly could go a long way in terms of replacing the mainstream though. :)

]]> By: Jax http://singularityhub.com/2009/10/09/music-created-by-learning-computer-getting-better/#comment-32070 Jax Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:36:00 +0000 http://singularityhub.com/?p=7927#comment-32070 People reject it because they are scared, we are not as special as we think. I find it pretty awesome that we can create a neural network to do this kind of thing. The only thing it can't do on its own is write a piece of music for a purpose (e.g. for a cause or such like). Certainly could go a long way in terms of replacing the mainstream though. :) People reject it because they are scared, we are not as special as we think. I find it pretty awesome that we can create a neural network to do this kind of thing. The only thing it can’t do on its own is write a piece of music for a purpose (e.g. for a cause or such like).
Certainly could go a long way in terms of replacing the mainstream though. :)

]]> By: Geoff W http://singularityhub.com/2009/10/09/music-created-by-learning-computer-getting-better/#comment-8982 Geoff W Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:21:22 +0000 http://singularityhub.com/?p=7927#comment-8982 I'm really excited for the advances in technology that have progressed us to this point. As a musician that struggles to come up with my own original pieces I can appreciate the difficulty of creating an original work of music that people, in general, would enjoy listening to. Just because a computer can do it better than me doesn't threaten me at all. There are lots of things that computers do better than me. Recognizing and processing patterns is one of them, and really all that music is when broken down. No matter the source, it is music. It is art. Different people will analyze art and have different opinions, different implications, and be impressed upon by the art differently. The soul of the music is in the ear of the beholder and how they connect with the stimuli presented. The sound of a brook in a forest can be described as nature's music. Calming, soothing, and derived from objects with no self awarenes and no person behind them. Emily Howell is not so different except that she/it can improve upon the existing output based on "critisism" instead of a river only able to follow the path of least resistance. I’m really excited for the advances in technology that have progressed us to this point. As a musician that struggles to come up with my own original pieces I can appreciate the difficulty of creating an original work of music that people, in general, would enjoy listening to. Just because a computer can do it better than me doesn’t threaten me at all. There are lots of things that computers do better than me. Recognizing and processing patterns is one of them, and really all that music is when broken down.

No matter the source, it is music. It is art. Different people will analyze art and have different opinions, different implications, and be impressed upon by the art differently. The soul of the music is in the ear of the beholder and how they connect with the stimuli presented. The sound of a brook in a forest can be described as nature’s music. Calming, soothing, and derived from objects with no self awarenes and no person behind them. Emily Howell is not so different except that she/it can improve upon the existing output based on “critisism” instead of a river only able to follow the path of least resistance.

]]> By: Geoff W http://singularityhub.com/2009/10/09/music-created-by-learning-computer-getting-better/#comment-32069 Geoff W Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:21:00 +0000 http://singularityhub.com/?p=7927#comment-32069 I'm really excited for the advances in technology that have progressed us to this point. As a musician that struggles to come up with my own original pieces I can appreciate the difficulty of creating an original work of music that people, in general, would enjoy listening to. Just because a computer can do it better than me doesn't threaten me at all. There are lots of things that computers do better than me. Recognizing and processing patterns is one of them, and really all that music is when broken down. No matter the source, it is music. It is art. Different people will analyze art and have different opinions, different implications, and be impressed upon by the art differently. The soul of the music is in the ear of the beholder and how they connect with the stimuli presented. The sound of a brook in a forest can be described as nature's music. Calming, soothing, and derived from objects with no self awarenes and no person behind them. Emily Howell is not so different except that she/it can improve upon the existing output based on "critisism" instead of a river only able to follow the path of least resistance. I’m really excited for the advances in technology that have progressed us to this point. As a musician that struggles to come up with my own original pieces I can appreciate the difficulty of creating an original work of music that people, in general, would enjoy listening to. Just because a computer can do it better than me doesn’t threaten me at all. There are lots of things that computers do better than me. Recognizing and processing patterns is one of them, and really all that music is when broken down.

No matter the source, it is music. It is art. Different people will analyze art and have different opinions, different implications, and be impressed upon by the art differently. The soul of the music is in the ear of the beholder and how they connect with the stimuli presented. The sound of a brook in a forest can be described as nature’s music. Calming, soothing, and derived from objects with no self awarenes and no person behind them. Emily Howell is not so different except that she/it can improve upon the existing output based on “critisism” instead of a river only able to follow the path of least resistance.

]]> By: Tom C http://singularityhub.com/2009/10/09/music-created-by-learning-computer-getting-better/#comment-8978 Tom C Mon, 12 Oct 2009 05:32:03 +0000 http://singularityhub.com/?p=7927#comment-8978 To gideon: I think you misunderstand how the human mind works. I'm a composer (not very good), and I've studied music for many years with composers and musicians who ARE very good. Universally, they have said that their first -- and only -- goal when writing their music is to make it "good." Meaning that the idea that a song is driven by, say, the loss of a child, and every note is chosen to express that grief, is rubbish. Music is driven by rules. Now, true, we humans can map ideas and emotions onto music after the fact. In fact, that's what movies do -- masterfully -- by placing a song in a minor key over video footage of something tragic, they "double" the sadness quotient. But that's not in the music at all, and it's very, VERY unlikely that ANYTHING like what's going on in the movie is what was going on in the composer's mind at the time of composition. This doesn't tell us anything about music; rather, it tells us how adaptable the human mind is at assimilating new pieces of information... at finding patterns in the world around us (even when they aren't there). I think that this story is amazing, and look forward to future creations. To gideon: I think you misunderstand how the human mind works. I’m a composer (not very good), and I’ve studied music for many years with composers and musicians who ARE very good. Universally, they have said that their first — and only — goal when writing their music is to make it “good.” Meaning that the idea that a song is driven by, say, the loss of a child, and every note is chosen to express that grief, is rubbish. Music is driven by rules.

Now, true, we humans can map ideas and emotions onto music after the fact. In fact, that’s what movies do — masterfully — by placing a song in a minor key over video footage of something tragic, they “double” the sadness quotient. But that’s not in the music at all, and it’s very, VERY unlikely that ANYTHING like what’s going on in the movie is what was going on in the composer’s mind at the time of composition.

This doesn’t tell us anything about music; rather, it tells us how adaptable the human mind is at assimilating new pieces of information… at finding patterns in the world around us (even when they aren’t there).

I think that this story is amazing, and look forward to future creations.

]]> By: Tom C http://singularityhub.com/2009/10/09/music-created-by-learning-computer-getting-better/#comment-32068 Tom C Mon, 12 Oct 2009 05:32:00 +0000 http://singularityhub.com/?p=7927#comment-32068 To gideon: I think you misunderstand how the human mind works. I'm a composer (not very good), and I've studied music for many years with composers and musicians who ARE very good. Universally, they have said that their first -- and only -- goal when writing their music is to make it "good." Meaning that the idea that a song is driven by, say, the loss of a child, and every note is chosen to express that grief, is rubbish. Music is driven by rules. Now, true, we humans can map ideas and emotions onto music after the fact. In fact, that's what movies do -- masterfully -- by placing a song in a minor key over video footage of something tragic, they "double" the sadness quotient. But that's not in the music at all, and it's very, VERY unlikely that ANYTHING like what's going on in the movie is what was going on in the composer's mind at the time of composition. This doesn't tell us anything about music; rather, it tells us how adaptable the human mind is at assimilating new pieces of information... at finding patterns in the world around us (even when they aren't there). I think that this story is amazing, and look forward to future creations. To gideon: I think you misunderstand how the human mind works. I’m a composer (not very good), and I’ve studied music for many years with composers and musicians who ARE very good. Universally, they have said that their first — and only — goal when writing their music is to make it “good.” Meaning that the idea that a song is driven by, say, the loss of a child, and every note is chosen to express that grief, is rubbish. Music is driven by rules.

Now, true, we humans can map ideas and emotions onto music after the fact. In fact, that’s what movies do — masterfully — by placing a song in a minor key over video footage of something tragic, they “double” the sadness quotient. But that’s not in the music at all, and it’s very, VERY unlikely that ANYTHING like what’s going on in the movie is what was going on in the composer’s mind at the time of composition.

This doesn’t tell us anything about music; rather, it tells us how adaptable the human mind is at assimilating new pieces of information… at finding patterns in the world around us (even when they aren’t there).

I think that this story is amazing, and look forward to future creations.

]]> By: larry http://singularityhub.com/2009/10/09/music-created-by-learning-computer-getting-better/#comment-8945 larry Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:32:16 +0000 http://singularityhub.com/?p=7927#comment-8945 ok so who owns the copyright ok so who owns the copyright

]]> By: larry http://singularityhub.com/2009/10/09/music-created-by-learning-computer-getting-better/#comment-32067 larry Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:32:00 +0000 http://singularityhub.com/?p=7927#comment-32067 ok so who owns the copyright ok so who owns the copyright

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