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	<title>Comments on: Exclusive: Complete Genomics To Sequence A Million Genomes &#8211; CEO</title>
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		<title>By: As genomics data approaches exascale, cloud could save the day &#8211; - Tech News AggregatorTech News Aggregator</title>
		<link>http://singularityhub.com/2010/01/26/exclusive-complete-genomics-to-sequence-1-million-genomes-interview-with-ceo/#comment-53016</link>
		<dc:creator>As genomics data approaches exascale, cloud could save the day &#8211; - Tech News AggregatorTech News Aggregator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 07:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] few years ago, Complete Genomics publicly announced its plan to sequence a million genomes by 2014, but it has been woefully behind schedule to this point. It was hoping to do 50,000 genomes in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: As genomics data approaches exascale, cloud could save the day &#124; Apple Related</title>
		<link>http://singularityhub.com/2010/01/26/exclusive-complete-genomics-to-sequence-1-million-genomes-interview-with-ceo/#comment-52781</link>
		<dc:creator>As genomics data approaches exascale, cloud could save the day &#124; Apple Related</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 05:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] few years ago, Complete Genomics publicly announced its plan to sequence a million genomes by 2014, but it has been woefully behind schedule to this point. It was hoping to do 50,000 genomes in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: As genomics pushes big data limits, cloud could save the day - NEW BIO TECHNOLOGIES &#8211; NEW BIO TECHNOLOGIES</title>
		<link>http://singularityhub.com/2010/01/26/exclusive-complete-genomics-to-sequence-1-million-genomes-interview-with-ceo/#comment-52779</link>
		<dc:creator>As genomics pushes big data limits, cloud could save the day - NEW BIO TECHNOLOGIES &#8211; NEW BIO TECHNOLOGIES</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 04:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] few years ago, Complete Genomics publicly announced a devise to method a million genomes by 2014, though it has been woefully behind report to this point. It was anticipating to do 50,000 genomes [...]</description>
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		<title>By: As genomics pushes big data limits, cloud could save the day &#8212; Cloud Computing News</title>
		<link>http://singularityhub.com/2010/01/26/exclusive-complete-genomics-to-sequence-1-million-genomes-interview-with-ceo/#comment-52766</link>
		<dc:creator>As genomics pushes big data limits, cloud could save the day &#8212; Cloud Computing News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 23:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] few years ago, Complete Genomics publicly announced its plan to sequence a million genomes by 2014, but it has been woefully behind schedule to this point. It was hoping to do 50,000 genomes in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: nanostring</title>
		<link>http://singularityhub.com/2010/01/26/exclusive-complete-genomics-to-sequence-1-million-genomes-interview-with-ceo/#comment-39093</link>
		<dc:creator>nanostring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2010 10:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> “Fast growing companies like ours inhale cash”
Somebody is inhaling something else here...
Less than 1,000 genomes in 2010, only 10x coverage (standard is 25x or 30x)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Fast growing companies like ours inhale cash”<br />
Somebody is inhaling something else here&#8230;<br />
Less than 1,000 genomes in 2010, only 10x coverage (standard is 25x or 30x)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Exclusive Interview with Complete Genomics &#8211; These Guys Get It (video) &#124; Singularity Hub</title>
		<link>http://singularityhub.com/2010/01/26/exclusive-complete-genomics-to-sequence-1-million-genomes-interview-with-ceo/#comment-38778</link>
		<dc:creator>Exclusive Interview with Complete Genomics &#8211; These Guys Get It (video) &#124; Singularity Hub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Dec 2010 17:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] with their requisite silent period ended we finally got a chance to tour their facilities and talk again with their CEO Cliff Reid. We were impressed. Complete Genomics isn&#8217;t going to conquer the entire world of DNA testing, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] with their requisite silent period ended we finally got a chance to tour their facilities and talk again with their CEO Cliff Reid. We were impressed. Complete Genomics isn&#8217;t going to conquer the entire world of DNA testing, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Complete Genomics Gears Up for IPO This Week &#124; Singularity Hub</title>
		<link>http://singularityhub.com/2010/01/26/exclusive-complete-genomics-to-sequence-1-million-genomes-interview-with-ceo/#comment-37230</link>
		<dc:creator>Complete Genomics Gears Up for IPO This Week &#124; Singularity Hub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 17:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] end of the year. These are big numbers, and they&#8217;re likely to get bigger. Much much bigger. In our interview with CEO Cliff Reid back in January, he claimed that Complete Genomics would sequence 1 million human genomes by 2014, and at prices [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] end of the year. These are big numbers, and they&#8217;re likely to get bigger. Much much bigger. In our interview with CEO Cliff Reid back in January, he claimed that Complete Genomics would sequence 1 million human genomes by 2014, and at prices [...]</p>
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		<title>By: GATC To Sequence 100,000 Genomes by 2014 &#124; Singularity Hub</title>
		<link>http://singularityhub.com/2010/01/26/exclusive-complete-genomics-to-sequence-1-million-genomes-interview-with-ceo/#comment-36058</link>
		<dc:creator>GATC To Sequence 100,000 Genomes by 2014 &#124; Singularity Hub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 14:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] by prominent companies. Yet no one seems certain as to where the moon is, metaphorically speaking. Complete Genomics has announced it will sequence a million genomes in the next five years. GATC has its 100k genome goal set around the same time frame. Which of these is the important [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] by prominent companies. Yet no one seems certain as to where the moon is, metaphorically speaking. Complete Genomics has announced it will sequence a million genomes in the next five years. GATC has its 100k genome goal set around the same time frame. Which of these is the important [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ivan Malagurski</title>
		<link>http://singularityhub.com/2010/01/26/exclusive-complete-genomics-to-sequence-1-million-genomes-interview-with-ceo/#comment-26374</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivan Malagurski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2010 10:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not a very good business model...the first 3rd gen system can put them out of business very fast....and Illumina launching its service trough existing customers....not a very bright future for CG....
Ivan Malagurski</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a very good business model&#8230;the first 3rd gen system can put them out of business very fast&#8230;.and Illumina launching its service trough existing customers&#8230;.not a very bright future for CG&#8230;.<br />
Ivan Malagurski</p>
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		<title>By: Ivan Malagurski</title>
		<link>http://singularityhub.com/2010/01/26/exclusive-complete-genomics-to-sequence-1-million-genomes-interview-with-ceo/#comment-32815</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivan Malagurski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2010 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not a very good business model...the first 3rd gen system can put them out of business very fast....and Illumina launching its service trough existing customers....not a very bright future for CG....
Ivan Malagurski</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a very good business model&#8230;the first 3rd gen system can put them out of business very fast&#8230;.and Illumina launching its service trough existing customers&#8230;.not a very bright future for CG&#8230;.<br />
Ivan Malagurski</p>
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		<title>By: Complete Genomics Secures New Customers, 500+ Orders for Whole Genome Sequences &#124; Singularity Hub</title>
		<link>http://singularityhub.com/2010/01/26/exclusive-complete-genomics-to-sequence-1-million-genomes-interview-with-ceo/#comment-13730</link>
		<dc:creator>Complete Genomics Secures New Customers, 500+ Orders for Whole Genome Sequences &#124; Singularity Hub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Exclusive: Complete Genomics To Sequence A Million Genomes &#8211; CEO [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Woman With Genetic Disorder Seeks Husband with Health Insurance on YouTube &#124; Singularity Hub</title>
		<link>http://singularityhub.com/2010/01/26/exclusive-complete-genomics-to-sequence-1-million-genomes-interview-with-ceo/#comment-13560</link>
		<dc:creator>Woman With Genetic Disorder Seeks Husband with Health Insurance on YouTube &#124; Singularity Hub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] costs of genetic sequencing are dropping rapidly. Complete Genomics is going to sequence a million genomes by the end of 2014. What will they cost by that time? $500? Give it another decade and such sequences may cost [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] costs of genetic sequencing are dropping rapidly. Complete Genomics is going to sequence a million genomes by the end of 2014. What will they cost by that time? $500? Give it another decade and such sequences may cost [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A Bit of Realism</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Bit of Realism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 01:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Data is so much less useful than meaning and insight.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Advice like don&#039;t smoke, eat healthy, and exercise regularly is so much more useful and cheaper.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Their &#039;product&#039; is only useful to those doing research.  Can Complete Genomics attribute meaning to this data on a large scale and then apply it to direct practical effect and profit from that ?  To do that they would have to be an entirely different business.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So the question then would be, is there any real medical/clinical purpose for sequencing the massive numbers of people they would need to in order to make a profit.  The IT scale challenge has been done by others before, no real challenge there.  But as a business it smells of the dot com years and hype.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is this really all about the idea and not the opportunity, been there, done that ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Data is so much less useful than meaning and insight.</p>
<p>Advice like don&#39;t smoke, eat healthy, and exercise regularly is so much more useful and cheaper.</p>
<p>Their &#39;product&#39; is only useful to those doing research.  Can Complete Genomics attribute meaning to this data on a large scale and then apply it to direct practical effect and profit from that ?  To do that they would have to be an entirely different business.</p>
<p>So the question then would be, is there any real medical/clinical purpose for sequencing the massive numbers of people they would need to in order to make a profit.  The IT scale challenge has been done by others before, no real challenge there.  But as a business it smells of the dot com years and hype.</p>
<p>Is this really all about the idea and not the opportunity, been there, done that ?</p>
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		<title>By: Complete Genomics To Sequence 1 Million Genomes &#171; Alex Torex Blog</title>
		<link>http://singularityhub.com/2010/01/26/exclusive-complete-genomics-to-sequence-1-million-genomes-interview-with-ceo/#comment-13175</link>
		<dc:creator>Complete Genomics To Sequence 1 Million Genomes &#171; Alex Torex Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 12:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 30, 2010   Exclusive: Complete Genomics To Sequence 1 Million Genomes – Interview With CEO &#124; Singularity Hub Instead of building individual machines that can be shipped off to laboratories, Complete Genomics [...]</description>
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		<title>By: azinyk</title>
		<link>http://singularityhub.com/2010/01/26/exclusive-complete-genomics-to-sequence-1-million-genomes-interview-with-ceo/#comment-13173</link>
		<dc:creator>azinyk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 10:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are they setting their prices so low?  He says &quot;Fast growing companies like ours inhale cash&quot; to the tune of $45M, but if he only charged $20K per genome last year, and sequenced fewer than 100 genomes, that means they had a revenue of less than $2 million.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s even worse for the future.  A person only needs their genome sequenced once, and yet Complete Genomics is planning to charge people a fraction of the price they&#039;d be willing to pay for items that wear out, like cars.  If every American gets their genome sequenced once per lifetime, you&#039;d sequence about 300 million genomes every 80 years, which at $500 each, is about $1.8 billion per year.  That&#039;s about the same size as the lawn care industry.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The contents of one&#039;s genome may be a life-and-death affair; I&#039;d expect people to be willing to pay more for their health than they would for a 1-week vacation in Aruba.  I&#039;m not proposing that prices should stay high forever, just because your health is important.  Vaccines are a treatment you only need once to save your life, and they only cost tens of dollars.  I just think that until competition drives the prices down, the market would be willing to bear a lot more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are they setting their prices so low?  He says &#8220;Fast growing companies like ours inhale cash&#8221; to the tune of $45M, but if he only charged $20K per genome last year, and sequenced fewer than 100 genomes, that means they had a revenue of less than $2 million.</p>
<p>It&#39;s even worse for the future.  A person only needs their genome sequenced once, and yet Complete Genomics is planning to charge people a fraction of the price they&#39;d be willing to pay for items that wear out, like cars.  If every American gets their genome sequenced once per lifetime, you&#39;d sequence about 300 million genomes every 80 years, which at $500 each, is about $1.8 billion per year.  That&#39;s about the same size as the lawn care industry.</p>
<p>The contents of one&#39;s genome may be a life-and-death affair; I&#39;d expect people to be willing to pay more for their health than they would for a 1-week vacation in Aruba.  I&#39;m not proposing that prices should stay high forever, just because your health is important.  Vaccines are a treatment you only need once to save your life, and they only cost tens of dollars.  I just think that until competition drives the prices down, the market would be willing to bear a lot more.</p>
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