14 responses

  1. Improbus Liber
    Improbus Liber
    April 11, 2013

    Time to become a vegan? Is this just red meat? How about chicken, pork, fish or insects?

    • Vector
      Vector
      April 11, 2013

      I’m not sure if you’ve already noticed, but near the bottom of the wiki page provided in the article was some of your answer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnitine#Food

      • Improbus Liber
        Improbus Liber
        April 12, 2013

        That is a handy wiki page. Thanks! I noticed that insects weren’t on the list but I imagine they would be around or below chicken. I don’t actually eat insects but I wouldn’t be averse to trying them.

      • Richard Lewis
        April 15, 2013

        The real issue is that meat production is about 10 times less efficient than the production of plant crops.

        You will smug people in some countries laugh this off….many of our fellow brothers and sisters elsewhere are starving,,,,,what a world we live in hey

  2. Vector
    Vector
    April 11, 2013

    “A diet high in carnitine actually shifts our gut microbe composition to those that like carnitine, making meat eaters even more susceptible to forming TMAO and its artery-clogging effects. Meanwhile, vegans and vegetarians have a signficantly reduced capacity to synthesize TMAO from carnitine, which may explain the cardiovascular health benefits of these diets.”

    In other words, moderation or elimination are the keys to good health. A little less touched on note is that your body cleans and repairs itself when you give it exactly what it needs. Also for good heart health, take adequate portions of Omega-3. Also drink adequate water, often breath deeply, take things like Vitamin C, D, E, Iodine, and other things which boost your immune system and regulate your metabolism. Vitamin C is also important for heart health because it aids in the synthesis of collagen, which keeps your blood vessels more elastic.

    A healthy immune system is important because it, among other things, helps eliminate artery plaque by sending phagocytes to consume the plaque as useless matter. You must also stretch your body and perform aerobics practically everyday to facilitate the movement of lymph (immune system juice) throughout your lymphatic system (primary immune center) and entire body.

  3. Dave Sill
    April 12, 2013

    http://chriskresser.com/red-meat-and-tmao-its-the-gut-not-the-meat

    “The mistaken blame of saturated fat and cholesterol as drivers of heart disease led to a decades-long campaign to encourage low-fat, high-carbohydrate diets. Unfortunately, the effects of this campaign were not harmless. Not only did it unnecessarily deprive people of nutrient-dense, nourishing (and delicious!) foods like meat, butter and eggs, it may have indirectly contributed to the epidemics of obesity, heart disease and diabetes. Studies have shown that when people replace saturated fat with carbohydrates, the risk of heart disease doesn’t go down—it goes up. (1) This is not because of the carbohydrates, per se, but because 85% of the grain consumed in the U.S. is in the highly refined form. (2)”

    • Ryan
      April 19, 2013

      Yep, and notice they studied omnivores, vegans, and vegetarians… but no carnivores… or anyone on a high fat, very low carb diet.

  4. Phil G
    April 12, 2013

    Maybe time to stop taking carnitine supplements…

  5. Richard Lewis
    April 15, 2013

    The real issue is that meat production is about 10 times less efficient than the production of plant crops.

    You will smug people in some countries laugh this off….many of our fellow brothers and sisters elsewhere are starving,,,,,what a world we live in hey

  6. jg
    April 16, 2013

    I have to say…I just don’t what to eat. I simply can’t stomach vegetables for the most part. Raw tomatoes and carrots, sure…that’s about it. Wheat, corn, and rice have all been GMO’d to death and are arguably bad for you anyway. Now steak is out, and I have no doubt chicken, pork, and fish aren’t far behind. The all fruit diet has….noxious effects…and corporate america won’t let me subsist on the beer-only diet.

    What’s left????

  7. Grimjoe
    April 18, 2013

    Saw a study once called the okinowans where there results said that anything that has been consumed for 2 generations(parents and grandparents) is good for you(generalised) of coarse that doesnt take into account chemical additives or growth steroids.

  8. robit
    April 19, 2013

    As a new poster, I am not sure if linking is limited, but I’ll chance this. Dr. Hazen had a good interview on NPR. Here is a link to the transcript:
    http://www.wbur.org/npr/177029247/red-meats-heart-risk-goes-beyond-the-fat
    I have over the last few months become aware that the hyperbole of there being a connection between saturated fat and heart diesase is wrong. Fact is, it is the carbohydrates that are the problem. This study sure adds an important new factor to be considered. Sounds like the Canadian Aboriginal peoples knew something when they ate the organs and fat of their game and gave the lean meat to their dogs. Eh? Is there a way to reduce the TMAO producing bacteria other than cutting down on the ingestion of carnatine?

  9. Zippy
    April 23, 2013

    Mmmmmm, carnitine.

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